German Bundestag, Plenarprotokoll 19/204,
pp. 25630-25632.
Colleague Frei, permit me a prior remark: Deportations
produce nothing so long as our borders are not effectively defended.
Right honorable Herr President. Honored colleagues.
Ten weeks ago, a wave of Islamist terror rolled through
Germany and Europe and claimed numerous fatalities. Our delegation then offered
this motion [Drucksache 19/23951] to
take into preventive custody all Islamists posing a threat [Gefährder] who were not to be deported
or who were subject to deportation. Against this you displayed your usual
perplexity rhetoric, yet you did not act. Precisely this the citizens of this
country no longer accept. They want a government which finally acts instead of
only speaking. We demand precisely this with our motion [Drucksache 19/25833].
We nevertheless attained with our motion that the Interior
Minister pleaded for a deprivation of liberty [Freiheitsentzug] for Gefährder one week
later in a video conference with other EU interior ministers. Thanks to the engagement of the Federal Criminal Office, there shall soon be a
unified, Europe-wide definition of Gefährder
and those Gefährder shall then also
be included in the Schengen information system. Precisely this is long overdue
and precisely this I had already demanded in this house on May 17, 2019. It is
nice to see that the AfD works.
Unfortunately we cannot secure with sufficient strength from
the opposition that the war on Islamist terror is finally to be won. Herr
Minister – this I must say clearly – you do not do it or do not want to; the
last months’ experiences have shown that to us. You indeed had brought our
central demand, nationwide preventive custody, into the interior ministers’
conference, yet you there obtained no concrete solutions. The conference’s conclusions
clearly indicate that. You and your colleagues of AK II –that is, work circle
II – in fact issued the order to examine the preventive custody demanded by us.
From the protocol notice, however, it is to be inferred that you and some of
your colleagues wish to again shift this responsibility back to the countries. Herr
Frei, we nevertheless know that thus the custody can never be implemented.The
splintering of police law would further increase. Left-green-red interior
ministers would prevent the implementation of custody and the Gefährder would remain at large and
could continue to pursue unhindered the plans of attack. That, Herr Minister,
is not just incomprehensible, that is inexcusable and unacceptable.
The CSU in all seriousness now demands the employment of
ankle bracelets so as to prevent attacks. The ankle bracelets, which besides
have not been of use for years, shall thus be the solution. They do improve to
a maximum the surveillance yield in regards the movements picture or to contact
persons, yet at no time does the ankle bracelet prevent even just one attack,
because the Gefährder can continue to
move about unhindered. Therefore stop constantly selling the ankle bracelet as
a solution. It is not a solution and it will never be a solution.
You of the CSU then even demand the preventive detention.
Dear colleagues of the CSU, the term “Gefährder”
comes from Gefahr [danger]. A threatening
danger is not fought by waiting until someone commits a criminal act with which
he presents evidence of his Gefahrlichkeit
so that he is to be taken into preventive detention. Who in regards the
fight against Gefährder waits until a
criminal act, he disregards exactly those same Gefährder who so far have not appeared to be criminal. We must act
before it comes to criminal acts, dear colleagues. Therefore, this proposal also
by far does not suffice. And stop constantly throwing sand in the eyes of the
citizens.
We all know that since September 11, 2001, at the latest which
challenges Islamist terror presents to us. Despite that, your parties, this
government, have undertaken nothing effective. On the contrary: You have continued
with your policy of open borders – we are again on point, Herr Frei –and
allowed terrorists and Gefährder in
great numbers into our country. One of them, Anis Amri, committed the terror
attack on the Christmas market on the Breitscheid Platz in 2016 and murdered
eleven persons. An additional Gefährder murdered
a man with a knife attack just last October in Dresden. These assaults would
have been able to be prevented if this government would have moved timely,
effective measures to fight terror.
There cannot be two opinions on the present state of the
Islamist danger. We in Germany presently have over 28,000 Islamists, 12,500 Salafists
– that is an increase of 87 percent since 2014 – and 619 Islamist Gefährder. I must correct you, Herr
Frei: Only 242 of these Gefährder are
at large. According to Europol, we in Europe between 2007 and 2014 had 16
terror attacks with 8 deaths, thus one terror fatality per year. This has
gravely changed: Between 2015 and 2019, it was 94 terror attacks with 374
deaths, that is 74 terror fatalities per year. And the Rizin attack in Cologne
would have produced 13,500 fatalities and even so many wounded if our security
authorities had not prevented this attack in time. I therefore appeal to you with
all emphasis: Finally implement this Federal custody of Gefährder before it again comes to a deadly terror attack in
Germany.
Thorsten Frei (CDU/CSU): Yes, but that cannot be.
The BKA president in 2015 clearly said it is impossible to
completely control all Islamist Gefährder
and the number then was only half so high. The president of the Saxon Constitution
Defense after the attack in Dresden clearly and distinctly stated that even a complete
control does not prevent an attack. Despite that, you stick your head in the sand.
Stop this ostrich policy! We all here in this sovereign
house are obligated to the best defense of our citizens. Finally fulfill this
obligation. What we now require are concrete measures instead of endless
discussions and examination orders.
Our motion serves precisely this. Finally let acts follow
your words. Do not deny to our people these long overdue defensive measures and
vote for this motion.
Many thanks.
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