German Bundestag, Plenarprotokoll 21/53, pp. 6312-6314.
Right honorable President.
Honored members.
The CDU
Minister-president Daniel Günther just a few days ago quite openly declared the
press to be an enemy. He spoke of censorship, ja, even of a ban of free media – statements which, let us be
honest, had they been used by an AfD minister-president
Bettina Hagedorn (SPD): Happily, there
are none!
would have immediately
led to demands for a party ban proceeding. They will now by the Union be
relativized and applauded, dear colleagues of the CDU/CSU. If you have the
decency, then distance yourself here and today from such authoritarian
fantasies of the minister-president.
Maja Wallstein (SPD): You speak like
the blind man of color.
Stephan Brandner (AfD): Wow! Can the
next speaker do the same?
Especially handy for Günther
and his supporters is that the European Union meanwhile delivers precisely this
tool suitable for his authoritarian dreams from the Digital Services Act, which
the coordinating office for digital service in fact degrades to a censorship
authority
Konrad Körner (CDU/CSU): That is
false!
by the planned EU chat
control which shall make possible an unfounded mass surveillance of citizens,
up to a so-called decree on “transparency and targeting of political
advertising”; in short: TTPA. And before you, as so often in these debates,
respond to our motion [Drucksache 21/3609]
with over-reaching allegations:
Ronja Kemmer
(CDU/CSU): Mimimi!
Just because we want
to cancel the TTPA is not to say we are against transparency or would tolerate
foreign influence in elections.
Anna Luthmann (Greens): Ach so!
These fairy tales of
the AfD as a supposed foreign marionette are simply untrue. Possibly you are
simply envious because you yourselves scarcely still have international
contacts. In short: This marionette card is in all cases the cheapest propaganda,
and I am sure you will again today unpack this propaganda, because you have no
arguments against the AfD and against this motion.
Sonja Lemke (Linke): We have quite
good arguments against the AfD!
In fact, this decree
is an attack on the opposition and freedom of the press. Yet in turn you come
along.
Ostensibly, the TTPA
theme comes as so often with an apparently plausible reasoning: No influencing
of elections! Yet it’s only about transparency. That this decree for
transparency is not necessary is shown by the state of the social media prior
to the introduction of this decree.
I myself have
connected digital advertising on Facebook. I needed to quite clearly specify who
financed the advertisement, needed to authenticate it with the personal statement,
and much more. That was transparent, that was sufficient.
What now does the TTPA
do beyond that? Expensive compliance, extremely difficult targeting, massive
legal insecurity for platforms. What now exactly is political advertising? And at
what point is it political advertising? – And a high risk of compensatory fines
for the smallest mistakes! The result: The effective withdrawal of almost all
large platforms – Meta with Facebook and Instagram, Google with YouTube. Since October
2025, political paid advertising in social media is de facto no longer possible.
And whom does that
harm? Not the governing parties, not the established media houses,
Johannes Schätzel (SPD): So far from
the reality!
not ARD and ZDF. Harmed
will be new parties, opposition forces, critical associations, candidates and
think tanks. And yes, quite especially Germany’s strongest party, the AfD, will
be harmed. Since we are present in the digital spectrum, because we enjoy no
favorable, continual coverage by large publishing houses, or by public
broadcasting media, like all of you here.
What thus here is in fact
happening is the targeted shutdown of a political competitor under the pretense
of an ostensible transparency. I say: Away with this undemocratic, junk decree
of the European Union!
And if you now ask:
Yes, AfD, what then is your solution for the influencing of elections? Quite
simple: The fight against foreign influence is a duty of the security
authorities, among others, the Federal intelligence service [BND, Bundesnachrichtendienst]. This ought
to be strengthened. Since in the secret service work, we are meanwhile near completely
dependent on the U.S.A. – and that because you in the area of security- and
key-technologies have slumbered for years. That is your responsibility and your
failure.
Nevertheless, you are especially
disillusioning in this debate – and this I cannot spare you, Herr Digital
Minister Wildberger – with your cabinet draft law for political advertising
transparency, the national ensuing legislation for the TTPA. This draft in
regards so-called advertisers, thus parties, associations, business and
political candidates, expressly enables house searches and seizures on account
of ostensible violations of transparency. We are here quite quickly into
criminal law. Who works politically needs in the future to thereby figure that
he receives a house search.
Johannes Schätzel (SPD): Such rubbish!
And just retroactively
can he defend himself against that. You thereby clearly create an intimidation
effect. I ask you: Is that your idea of freedom of the press and fair,
democratic competition? Ours is quite clearly not.
And it becomes still
worse. In regards danger in delay, house searches shall even be possible
without legal writ. What may we then imagine of that? Does that mean that the
successful pay videos, critical of the government, from Alice Weidel or from Nius chief Reichert are a danger in
delay? The video is uploaded – danger in delay – and directly there are house
searches on the initiative of the coordinating office for digital services
which is controlled by the Digital Ministry? Need we imagine it?
Johannes Schätzel (SPD): Nein!
That something so is
at all in a cabinet draft is incomprehensible. On this account, I say: Without
delay, take back these regulations, Herr Digital Minister.
If you do not believe
me: It is in black and white in §6 and §7 of the cabinet draft. I myself have
again taken a peek. I yesterday questioned the minister in committee. He
disputed all of these problems which I listed here, designated the criticism –
by analogy – as disinformation.
Konrad Körner (CDU/CSU): You too!
Johannes Schätzel (SPD): You too!
Herr Minister, here is
the last opportunity to set it right.
I expect here and
today a clear statement of the Federal government. Take back this cabinet
draft! Or do you adhere to seizures and house search even without a judicial
decree? Yes or no? It cannot be so difficult to here clearly declare.
Regardless of how the Digital
Ministry positions itself, the AfD remains now and in the future the advocate
for freedom.
Bettina Hagedorn (SPD): Hahaha!
You can be sure of it.
Many thanks.
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