Thursday, February 18, 2021

Armin-Paulus Hampel, February 10, 2021, Russia

German Bundestag,  Plenarprotokoll 19/208, pp. 26247-26248.

Many thanks. – Frau President. Ladies and gentlemen.

We should now quite quickly come back from feelings TV to reality television.

            Elisabeth Motschmann (CDU/CSU): And that out of your mouth!

            Anton Hofreiter (Greens): You do not at all know what reality is!

In the state’s lexicon on the topic of foreign policy is found the entry: Just as a building is more than a heap of bricks because it has at its disposal a ground plan, this is also valid for the foreign policy of a state.

            Elisabeth Motschmann (CDU/CSU): What is that then for a lyric?

According to this general guideline, a Grand Strategy is needed, eine Grosse Strategie, a role concept from which to draw its impulse to act. Nevertheless, one seeks in vain for this maxim in the behavior of the Federal government.

Your speech just now, Herr Maas, had reminded me that a large number of Social Democrats – and this does pertain to your speech – probably listened attentively, since many of your party friends are not in agreement with the course which you pursue. I always have the impression: On one side, you want to pacify your party friends; on the other side, you do everything so as to damage German-Russian relations.

Neither in regards Herr Maas nor in regards Frau Merkel is a German Russia strategy discernible. Worse yet: Had Russian President Vladimir Putin until recently seen Germany as one of the last remaining translators which could be trusted, Frau Merkel and Herr Maas in the past weeks have destroyed this last bridge of trust. They have done this frivolously [leichtfertig] and they have thereby violated the principle of foreign policy management; namely, to look after German interests vis-à-vis Russia and by means of negotiation balance with Russian interests.

Instead, we fall into a case of domestic policy and apply to the Russian president a standard of measurement not incumbent upon us. Since how else is to be explained that we at the highest level threaten Russia with sanctions in the Navalny affair, want to levy additional sanctions and endanger the Nord Stream project worth billions? Yet at the same time we undertake nothing to sanction, for example, the murder of an Iranian scientist or to denounce the murder of a Saudi journalist in Turkey who already here found mention. Chancellor like foreign minister here measure – by permission – with a double standard.  

You can recall how Herr Colin Powell, with a fake story, persuaded the world community at the UN Security Council. I had not heard the outcries from the Union circles – ; a terrible war with hundreds of thousands of victims was the consequence. It subsequently goes exactly so in Libya. Yet here also I have not heard your outcry.

               Michael Brand (CDU/CSU-Fulda): Then you were not really tuned in! Here                           again you have not listened!

Worse still: In Moscow must arise the impression that the West – and primarily Germany – undertakes everything so as to generate in Russia a Maidan atmosphere [Stimmung] – and this also you want – and to choose as leader a hitherto completely unknown blogger who earlier – colleague Gysi has correctly mentioned this – sounded radical nationalist tones and of whom we do not know what are his true political goals and, before all things, who are his backers.

I agree that the maxim of the KSZE [Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe] process, namely, that no state is to meddle in the internal affairs of another, fundamentally must also have continuity in German foreign policy. It is the only practicable and correct way, ladies and gentlemen. Of course, were we to apply the same standard of measurement to the German-Chinese relationship, and thus to a Communist state without any democratic structure but with thousands of executions of dubious legality, then we must in relation to China conduct the same sanctions policy as in relation to Russia. I can say to you: The German economy would immediately stand in front of your door and cry murder if you would do that.

My delegation and I are most deeply convinced that every country – my friend Alexander Gauland has mentioned it – has the right, in its way,

            Elisabeth Motschmann (CDU/CSU): Your way of human rights violations?

to follow the Pursuit of Happiness, that is, des Strebens nach Gluck.

            Michael Brand (CDU/CSU-Fulda): Human rights violations are not internal                            affairs!

That might not always agree with our set of values; yet that also need not.

In the case of Russia, there is in addition a further, important aspect. Our great eastern neighbor was for centuries governed by the czars,

            Alexander Lambsdorff (FDP): Our great eastern neighbor is called Poland!

and there followed for almost 80 years a Soviet dictatorship in part contemptuous of mankind. For 30 years, thus for one generation, Russia attempts to develop structures in the democratic sense.  

            Elisabeth Motschmann (CDU/CSU): You nevertheless do not seriously                                    believe that!

Besides, with us, the first attempt went awry after 15 years and after 1945 also the Germans had taken long until democratic thinking gained entry in all social structures. How presumptuous and arrogant it is vis-à-vis our Russian friends

            Elisabeth Motschmann (CDU/CSU): Friends?

not to give to this time of development its due!

Instead of issuing continual reproaches, we should preferably recognize what in the last three hundred years has developed positively in Russia. In the sense of German foreign policy, we should recognize how stabilizing – now catch your breath – the Russian president has been for his country in the past years. It must lie in the German interest to support this policy of Vladimir Putin. Since – again a quick breath – I can say to you one thing: You do not know and probably have no idea who comes after Vladimir Putin.

Many thanks.

            Michael Brand (CDU/CSU-Fulda): The Moscow visit worked!

 

[trans: tem]